Comments on: Alameda Fire Union calls for resignation of Chief http://westcoast911.com/wp/2009/06/18/alameda-fire-union-calls-for-resignation-of-chief/ Firefighting News, Wildfire updates, West Coast Firefighters, Firefighter products Wed, 01 Feb 2012 16:05:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: ladderpiper http://westcoast911.com/wp/2009/06/18/alameda-fire-union-calls-for-resignation-of-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-431 ladderpiper Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:30:51 +0000 http://westcoast911.com/wp/?p=4269#comment-431 I disagree with you SoCalFF. I don't think that votes of no confidence do anything to help the departments involved. All they do is air the laundry. I disagree with you SoCalFF. I don’t think that votes of no confidence do anything to help the departments involved. All they do is air the laundry.

]]> By: SoCalFF http://westcoast911.com/wp/2009/06/18/alameda-fire-union-calls-for-resignation-of-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-429 SoCalFF Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:50:44 +0000 http://westcoast911.com/wp/?p=4269#comment-429 All I can say BADBOB is that is one of the most STRAIGHT forward and articulate descriptions of a "Vote of NO Confidence" I have EVER heard!!!! Thank You for calling it like it is. Good luck to you guy's. All I can say BADBOB is that is one of the most STRAIGHT forward and articulate descriptions of a “Vote of NO Confidence” I have EVER heard!!!! Thank You for calling it like it is. Good luck to you guy’s.

]]> By: badbob http://westcoast911.com/wp/2009/06/18/alameda-fire-union-calls-for-resignation-of-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-424 badbob Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:13:40 +0000 http://westcoast911.com/wp/?p=4269#comment-424 The membership (labor union) is not at liberty to fire the chief when he becomes ineffective and puts the department (line personnel), the public, and the entire city in danger. The vote of no confidence is labor's way of firing him. It says to the public we as public servants can no longer trust our lives, or the public we serve in the shadow of the chief. If anyone can say that with confidence, it is the line personnel who have front row seats to a chief who has no backbone and is only there to boost his already fat pension from previous careers in the fire service. Trust me maddog, when the chief says to you, "I only sell to the public what the city manager tells me to sell", referring to cutting an already understaffed department,.......it's then you know you have no chief, just a puppet who will sell you up the river and not think twice about it. This shit bag at some point stopped being a fireman and became a grade "A" money hungry pussy. The revolving door for these money grubbers revolves every fire years, then in comes a new one just looking to sit in that chair for a few years and pad his pension. It's an "At will" job. If he doesn't do what the city manager tells him to do, he can be fired. He's a fucking puppet, plain and simple. I have yet to see a real man take that job. Maybe in other cities, but not this one. When you say interdepartmental problems and worrying about them getting out into the public, you must think that it can somehow be solved within the walls of city hall. Think about this, who do you think hired him? Answer: Not the public, not the firefighters, ....it was the people in city hall. There is not a drop of bad blood between us, because we do not share any blood with this guy. This guy had his firefighter blood drained from him when he replaced it with a money hungry, bleeding, political pussy. The membership (labor union) is not at liberty to fire the chief when he becomes ineffective and puts the department (line personnel), the public, and the entire city in danger.
The vote of no confidence is labor’s way of firing him. It says to the public we as public servants can no longer trust our lives, or the public we serve in the shadow of the chief. If anyone can say that with confidence, it is the line personnel who have front row seats to a chief who has no backbone and is only there to boost his already fat pension from previous careers in the fire service.
Trust me maddog, when the chief says to you, “I only sell to the public what the city manager tells me to sell”, referring to cutting an already understaffed department,…….it’s then you know you have no chief, just a puppet who will sell you up the river and not think twice about it.
This shit bag at some point stopped being a fireman and became a grade “A” money hungry pussy. The revolving door for these money grubbers revolves every fire years, then in comes a new one just looking to sit in that chair for a few years and pad his pension. It’s an “At will” job. If he doesn’t do what the city manager tells him to do, he can be fired. He’s a fucking puppet, plain and simple. I have yet to see a real man take that job. Maybe in other cities, but not this one.
When you say interdepartmental problems and worrying about them getting out into the public, you must think that it can somehow be solved within the walls of city hall. Think about this, who do you think hired him? Answer: Not the public, not the firefighters, ….it was the people in city hall. There is not a drop of bad blood between us, because we do not share any blood with this guy. This guy had his firefighter blood drained from him when he replaced it with a money hungry, bleeding, political pussy.

]]> By: maddog411 http://westcoast911.com/wp/2009/06/18/alameda-fire-union-calls-for-resignation-of-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-412 maddog411 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:00:28 +0000 http://westcoast911.com/wp/?p=4269#comment-412 Are votes of no confidence an effective statement? I think they mostly cause the organizations to look bad. I also think it forces too many interdepartment problems out into the public eye. But I am not there, so I don't know what started their bad blood. Are votes of no confidence an effective statement? I think they mostly cause the organizations to look bad. I also think it forces too many interdepartment problems out into the public eye.

But I am not there, so I don’t know what started their bad blood.

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